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Dot News: NavCore 7 updates for TomTom devices
NickG
post Nov 1 2007, 13:55
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QUOTE (stingray @ Nov 1 2007, 12:44) *
so where is the 'map share' included in the TT700?


You should see a "map corrections" button on the menu, but you need to have maps which support mapshare (ie last 6 months or so). From memory, this is v675 or above.
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QUOTE (Chris Young @ Nov 1 2007, 11:47) *
Upgraded my 910 with no problems. However I now find that the map display now has a media icon on the left hand side that I can't seem to turn off.
Anyone know how to disable this?


Do you have an entry in the 'Changepreferences' menu for 'Quickmenu preferences'? Lots of things to add or take away. If you have one thing ticked, you get that icon, if you have several, you get a green menu arrow, and if you don't have any ticked, the icon should disappear.
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post Nov 1 2007, 14:28
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This is my experience upgrading my 700...

I got notification that HOME 2.1 and Navcore 7 were available. Updated HOME, then Navcore....700 wouldn't boot! Phoned TomTom (who answered within two rings) who said they'd email me with the instructions to fix. Email arrived by the time I put phone down. The nub of it is:

- HOME 2.1 does not work well with the original GO series (Classic/3/5/700) and TomTom recommended I stayed on 1.5
- They sent the following instructions which worked perfectly - and I now have a fully functional 700 again:
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1. Connect your TomTom to your computer and then turn the TomTom ON.

2. Wait a few seconds for the TomTom to establish a connection with your computer and then enter the My Computer window on your computer and find the icon for your TomTom. Double click this icon to view the contents of your TomTom.

3. Select All of the items stored on your TomTom (Click "Edit" at the top of the screen and then "Select All") and then make a "Copy" of all of the items (Click "Edit" and then "Copy" while all of the items are still selected). You will not notice a change when you click "Copy" in the "Edit" menu.

4. Go to your Desktop and create a new folder (Right click a blank space, hover over "New" and then click "Folder" in the pop-up menu). Name your New Folder "TomTom Backup" for example (something that will be easy for you to remember). Double click the new folder to open it up and then click "Edit" at the top of the screen and then "Paste". The files from your TomTom will then begin to transfer into the new folder. Do not disconnect your TomTom from the computer while the files are transferring. Some of the files are very large and it may take several minutes for the data to transfer completely.

After the backup copy is finished, FORMAT your TomTom's memory card :

1. Enter the "My Computer" window on your computer and locate the icon for your TomTom.

2. Right click the TomTom's icon and then click "Format"

3. When the format wizard window appears click "Start" inside of the format wizard window.

4. A warning message will appear; Click "OK" to begin formatting (it is safe to format as long as the complete backup has been created first).

After the TomTom is formatted, open the TomTom HOME program on your computer to install the update :

1. In the list of options on the left side of TomTom HOME click "Explore".

2. In the middle section of the screen, click the small square to the left of the "Application" that you want to install.

3. Click the big green "Install" button at the top of the middle section.

4. Wait for the update to finish (it will usually take a few seconds). When the update is complete, minimize the TomTom HOME screen and return to your Desktop.

Having successfully installed the update, it is now time to restore the necessary elements from your backup back onto the TomTom :

1. Open the backup folder that you created on your desktop and right click the folder for your map (Great Britain PLUS, for example) and then left click "Copy" to prepare the folder for copying (again, you will not notice a change when you click "copy".

2. Go into your My Computer window and locate the icon for your TomTom and open it up. Click "Edit" at the top and then "Paste" to begin the copied Map folder transferring over onto your TomTom. The map will take a few minutes to transfer, as it is quite large.

3. After the map is finished copying, repeat steps 1 and 2 to copy the "Voices" folder (so, select and copy the "Voices" folder from your backup this time instead of the map) from your backup back onto your TomTom. And after the "Voices" folder is transferred, repeat steps 1 and 2 to copy the "Zip" folder back onto the TomTom. After the Map, voices and zip folders are transferred back onto your TomTom, you are nearly finished.

Link your device to TT Home and log in using the globe in the bottom left corner. It will automatically search for updates and install the lastest software to run your map data. Once you have followed the onscreen instructions and the software has been installed you can disconnect your device from the PC and it will be functioning correctly again.


By the way...also upgraded to the latest Western Europe map and now have MapShare working as well.

The best support I've ever had from TomTom.
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Jed P
post Nov 1 2007, 14:42
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QUOTE (Andy_P @ Oct 31 2007, 11:20) *
Andy63.... The Doctor/Dentist etc POIs have always been like that, you just haven't had the 'Help Me' menu making it so obvious before!
I suspect TomTom have been inundated with complaints, as they have now rushed out some additional POI files.
See this topic for the link and some comments...

Mapshare.... needs v6.75 maps or later to work.

Sounds... Are you using TT's own camera database or another (probably Pocket GPS World's). There is certainly a way round it for PGPSW's and very possibly for TT's but I need to know which first.

Jed... are you not getting the Map Corrections item in the main menu (page 2 on a 720)


Andy_P - yes now that I've tinkered a bit more I see it clearly, and have 'updated' a couple of items in Prague already. I've chosen the options to download others updates, but unfortunately you don't seem to have visibility of WHAT you are downloading, in case there are bogus updates... clues?


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Western and Central EU maps 6.50 and 6.75 (and hope soon 7.10)
North America and Canada 6.50
RDS/TMC Receiver v 4v.00.010.2 (more useful as a garrot, no damned signal! Stop Press now on 7.16 Firmware and BINGO! Instant fix)
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XDA1 and HP Smartphone HP514 running TT Navigator v 5.20
Maps of DE-CH-AT-CZ-PL Plus v 5.71
Nokia BT GPS lump - LD-3W
High resolution photograph of a ham sandwich
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Chris Young
post Nov 1 2007, 14:45
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have a "Quick menu preferences" in any of the 7 sub-menus in "Change Preferences" menu.
Sounds as if I'll need to dig around with Windows Explorer via a USB link to see if I can track it down.

QUOTE (Andy_P @ Nov 1 2007, 13:11) *
QUOTE (Chris Young @ Nov 1 2007, 11:47) *
Upgraded my 910 with no problems. However I now find that the map display now has a media icon on the left hand side that I can't seem to turn off.
Anyone know how to disable this?


Do you have an entry in the 'Changepreferences' menu for 'Quickmenu preferences'? Lots of things to add or take away. If you have one thing ticked, you get that icon, if you have several, you get a green menu arrow, and if you don't have any ticked, the icon should disappear.


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post Nov 1 2007, 14:49
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Hi Guys - A question...

It is my understanding (and I have been wrong many times before) that the OS - essentially in this case Navcore 7 is available free and its the Maps that you have to pay for.

So... hypothetically if i copied a ver of Navcore 7 from another TomTom unit, but still used my own legitimate maps, that came with my TomTom when I bought it...that would be legal. - Correct?

Kav unknw.gif
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post Nov 1 2007, 14:51
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I don't think there can be bogus updates. The updates are either verified by TomTom by hand or have been uploaded by lots of different users and so are unlikely to be incorrect. No one user can cause a map change to be published.
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@kavg

Yes, Navcore is free, but why would you copy it from another unit when TomTom HOME can download it for free anyway?
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QUOTE (kavg @ Nov 1 2007, 13:49) *
hypothetically if i copied a ver of Navcore 7 from another TomTom unit, but still used my own legitimate maps, that came with my TomTom when I bought it...that would be legal. - Correct?


Yeah, but why you would to? Isn't it easier just to let TomTom Home download it for you? That way you would also get the related updates such as MapShare info at the same time.

If you brick your TomTom by installing the software this way, I guess you will void your warranty as well.

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Jed P
post Nov 1 2007, 14:59
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1. All, when I was downlaoding the update for my 910, it showed the update file twice in the list PLUS the NL and GB postcode updates.

I downloaded the one duplicate Navcore 7 update and that took 30 mins and I couldn't wait to download the duplicate, so I clicked 'cancel'.

I was able to instal version 7x, no probs BUT I can't seem to see/get the postcode updates anymore, any clues. help.gif

2. I was also prompted to download latest version of TT HOME.... I tried (I.m on 1.5) and all it downloads are GPS Quickfix and component to connect to Outlook address component.

I separately download TT HOME from TT site but is does not upgrade the version (I choose Modify, not repair or remove) crazy.gif

Cheers

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TOMTOM GO 910 (with Fluffy Dice)
Western and Central EU maps 6.50 and 6.75 (and hope soon 7.10)
North America and Canada 6.50
RDS/TMC Receiver v 4v.00.010.2 (more useful as a garrot, no damned signal! Stop Press now on 7.16 Firmware and BINGO! Instant fix)
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Maps of DE-CH-AT-CZ-PL Plus v 5.71
Nokia BT GPS lump - LD-3W
High resolution photograph of a ham sandwich
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post Nov 1 2007, 15:12
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Here is the reason:

I did an upgrade of my 500 to Navcore 7.160 through home, to a 2GB SD card and that was successful - everything worked fine - except the Map share feature - No probs because I will sort it out later.

I was however rather dissappointed that it was the "Light" version, so did not include a number of really cool stuff, such as Music & Media, as well as "Change Car Symbol", "Auto Zoom", Quick Menu" etc... Etc... sad.gif

So... as an experiment (no intention of actually using), on a new 2GB card, I copied a ver of Navcore 7, With all the cool features, and copied my original maps to it and fired up my unit.

It worked perfectly, No hanging or crashing... it Played MP3's, and got a slideshow of my kids on it... I even managed to change my Car symbol... at this point I decided not to use it since I did'nt know if it was legal (hence Just an experiment) so I decided to ask the question.

If It is legal -then I'm a VVV happy bunny rofl.gif .... as I have a 500 that is all singing and dancing (quite literally tease.gif ) It should not be hard, looking at prevous posts, to sort the map share out.

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post Nov 1 2007, 15:25
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Only that you have the different "trust" settings to choose from....
Main menu / Map corrections / Correction preferences. You can choose whether to use only your own corrections, those verified by TomTom, those from "trusted sources" (whatever they are!), reported by 'some, reported by 'many' etc. - or any combination.
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post Nov 1 2007, 21:14
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Hi folks after a couple of attempts I have upgraded to Navcore 7.16 on my TTGO700.

The only differences I can see are the following

1 Now have Mapshare (works on my 675 map)
2 Extended safety preferences
3 New sataus bar preferences

Should I not, as part of the Navcore 7 promised by TomTom, have the new help mefile at least??

Is the above correct, is this all that Navcore 7 does for the GO700,what has happened to the help me file???

Any input from the experts would be appreciated. help.gif


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post Nov 1 2007, 21:40
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QUOTE (Chris Young @ Nov 1 2007, 11:47) *
Upgraded my 910 with no problems. However I now find that the map display now has a media icon on the left hand side that I can't seem to turn off.
Anyone know how to disable this?


I also seem to be suffering from this, and the suggested solution doesn't work for me either. Any know how to fix this very annoying "feature"?

Simon.
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post Nov 1 2007, 21:58
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QUOTE (bryce @ Nov 1 2007, 20:14) *
Hi folks after a couple of attempts I have upgraded to Navcore 7.16 on my TTGO700.

The only differences I can see are the following

1 Now have Mapshare (works on my 675 map)
2 Extended safety preferences
3 New sataus bar preferences

Should I not, as part of the Navcore 7 promised by TomTom, have the new help mefile at least??

Is the above correct, is this all that Navcore 7 does for the GO700,what has happened to the help me file???

Any input from the experts would be appreciated. help.gif

Have you got Tripmaster installed? When I first downloaded v7 the same thing happened - no shortcut to the Helpme feature. I discovered that deleting Tripmaster caused the Helpme to re-appear on the menu. I reinstalled a backup of v6 (with Tripmaster) then tried again and exactly the same thing happened. I've left tripmaster off now, so Helpme is there, but I haven't tried installing Tripmaster on top of the v7 release.
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Hi Thanks for the reply lowflyer, unfortunately I do not have tripmaster loaded so it is not that easy. Howevr I do have Suntime loaded do you think this could be causing a problem??


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Possibly - I'm no expert but my guess is that the "Extra" s/ware we have installed is interfering with the menu list in some way.

Could you remove Suntime to test the theory? BTW what does Suntime do?
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QUOTE (NickG @ Nov 1 2007, 11:51) *
QUOTE (malarcy @ Nov 1 2007, 11:08) *
I need to go back v6 for now - can you confirm how you are regressing to the 6.525 version


You need to use TomTom Home 1.5 or 1.6. You can't downgrade in 2.x as far as I know. So download and install 1.6 from TomTom, run it, and hover over the Applications in the middle column to find 6.52. Check the box next to that and then click the Install button at the top. You may need to delete the 7.x application off your TomTom first (don't worry, the device will still work for the purposes of transferring files). Let me know if this works.


Currently back to 6.525 - but TTS broken..... It''s been a bad week - PC with all the "stuff" on in 1000 pieces (blown motherboard) - so have regressed by finding a full backup taken a while ago that I stored on DVD - everything except the TTS voices seem to be working.

If the sledgehammer restore doesn't work out - I'll switch my attention to the dead PC and see if I can get v6 back from there - and I'll post if I fix the TTS - current thinking is it's case sensitive and early versions of home didn't preserve case names propely.

Thanks for the help

Malarcy

*EDIT* - Looks like TTS directory is case sensitive - and I have a working 910 - will make nice new backup and test tomorrow - then I am back on the upgrade path and maybe v 7.10 maps. - when I get a PC!!!!!!!!

I hate technology this week.

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Hi lowflyer you were right!! removed Suntime (and a calculator I forgot about) and up pops the help me icon.
Still notthere yet though,when i tried the First aid guide and Other guides there yet got a "No information available". So went to TomTom website and downloaded the latest doctor,pharmacey,dentist and police station and added to my GO700. Still no change in the info available message.

However when I went to drive/walk to help icons got all the latest docs etc. So finger trouble on my part.

SO Icons First aid Guide and Other Guides are still not functional. Do these work on anyones system???

By the way Suntime is a brilliant little app which automatically changes your scree from day to night colours at sunset and reverses this at sunrise. So it is a bummer to lose it.

Once I have plucked up the courage I will reload it and see what happens.

PS can I assume that the latest doc/dentist etc info is now not part of the original compressed POI's as originally supplied by TomTom on all our systems?? They seemed to d/l as .ov2 files

If this is the case is there a potential for POI type info to be released by TT which gives a first aid guide? or are we looking at a text reader application


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QUOTE (bryce @ Nov 1 2007, 22:50) *
SO Icons First aid Guide and Other Guides are still not functional. Do these work on anyones system???


They don't work on my ONE either. It flashes up "no information is available". I haven't downloaded the latest doctors, pharmacy etc because they aren't available for me - my map isn't up to date enough. In fact I'm in the middle of a painful wrangle with TT over a map update I've bought but which I'm not able to access to download - i'll have to start a new thread (when I stop frothing at the mouth) to explain all the ins and outs of the c0ck up so far.
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